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From:
Andrew Duke
To:
Chris Fahey
Cc:
IDM (E-mail)
Date:
Mon, 29 Nov 1999 15:10:41 -0400
Subject:
Re: (idm) High Quality IDM Webcasts?
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Hi, Chris. I agree totally with what you are saying, and with Cognition and Andrew Duke's In The Mix am trying to provide high quality sound quality wherever possible. Recently (well, a few months ago), Andrew Duke's In The Mix went from being offered simply at one bandwidth (28kps) to that *and* high so that those with higher connections, ISDN, T1s etc could experience the show more as I intend it (ie how it sounds here in the studio before it gets compressed to RealAudio and Windows Media Player files) and, i'm happy to say, it seems to have gone over very well. I'm also making sure I get material with good quality sound to begin with (ie. live PAs and guest dj sets on CDR or DAT, no cassettes, ditto for music), but am particularly frustrated with the artist feature portion of the show (where I interview an artist and play music from the artist interviewed): i've tried various EQing, ways of recording the phone interview, etc, etc, and, while the sound quality is sometimes OK, sometimes it is horrible. it's frustrating that you can talk to someone in the UK, for example, and you might get a great phone connection, but then you interview someone from toronto or detroit and the connection is horrible. vice versa as well. that's my biggest peeve witht the sound quality of the syndicated show at this point: trying to get the interviews to sound better. personally, it's in my personality to keep trying to do better, so hopefully the sound quality of the interviews and the show itself will improve. re: sonic thresholds: there's been a few world premieres that i've wanted to do that i didn't because of this very reason: either too low lows (fine for listening on the radio, but inaudible by the time they get compressed for the 'net), too high highs, or just too much dynamics so that you'd sacrifice one or the other to get at least some sound in. with the show you can mix two things together to get a little bit more "busy-ness" in there, when you're playing two minimal ambient tracks, for example, but that doesn't happen with the world premieres. thanks for bringing up this topic. andrew duke :) Chris Fahey wrote:
quoted 37 lines It's so nice to see so many places to listen to curated/DJ-ed webcasts of> It's so nice to see so many places to listen to curated/DJ-ed webcasts of > mixes of IDM, but one thing always bugs me and prevents me from ever really > participating as a listener: the compression is always so crappy! Are there > any IDMish internet radio "stations" webcasting in anything close to a > high-quality compression format? > > I find it very hard to listen to most streaming audio when the best quality > I can find is 32 kbps Real Audio or MP3. It's especially frustrating with > IDMish stuff (as opposed to rawk or spoken word junk), much of which is > constructed using extreme bass and treble sounds, pure waveform sounds, > subtle envelope effects, and other sound techniques which get mangled or > eliminated in most high-compression schemes. To listen to, say, Panasonic in > anything less than highest quality compression is like listening to hip hop > on a minicasette player. > > I realize that there are bandwidth issues and storage space issues, and > forgive me if I'm critiquing what is really only the shortcomings of some > hosting providers, but things are changing every day: Those of you who run > and promote such webcasts, like Andrew Duke or Lance, why not lead the way > with full-quality webcasting today? You can offer it in addition to your > regular low-bandwith offerings so that low-bandwith listeners can still > pitch in. I'd rather have one high-quality mix available per month than > several nigh-unintelligible low quality ones. Any thoughts on this? > > ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - > > c h r i s t ø p h e r f ª h e y > > . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ > chrisf@raremedium.com > 2 1 2 - 6 3 4 - 6 9 5 0 x 2 5 8 > http://www.raremedium.com > - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . _ . - ' ^ ' - . > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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